Seat is stamped 17″ but measures closer to 16.5″ flaps measure 13″ bar to bottom and 12.5″ across, the front gullet measures 5″- Wide tree.
2002 model. The leather is soft and you can just about roll the flaps. No blocks makes this a true close contact saddle but they can always be added on if you want them. There are no tears and no loose stitching. We do see some light wrinkles in the seat. The panels on this saddle are quite flat and it caused wrinkle lines on the bottom from sitting on a saddle stand. Due to this the saddle has been heavily discounted. We are including a $400 Tad Coffin leather wither relief pad with this saddle. If you like very simple, minimal lightweight saddles this is one you will want to try.