Seat is stamped 17.5″ flaps measure 4 1/4″ bar to bottom and 14″ across (#4A x-long forward flaps) the front gullet measures 4 1/2″- medium tree.
2016 Model. Saddle is in very good condition. Reddish brown in color. There are no tears, no loose stitching and no cracking. The seat does have some darker seat marks. Large front + back blocks under the flaps. Saddle has soft and well conditioned grain leather. Fancy stitching down the gullet makes for a classy look. The knee pads are squishy so your knees sink into them. If you are a tall rider and have been searching for the #4 flap they are hard to find used and most people have to pay to have one custom made. Good deal on this $6000+.