Seat is stamped 17″ flaps measure 13″ bar to bottom and 13″ across (#1.5 short/slightly forward flaps) the front gullet measures 4″- medium tree.
2003 model. The leather is soft and you can just about roll the outer flaps. There are no tears, no loose stitching and the best part is there is no ugly cracking on the panels. They are in very good condition. The back of the seat does show some discoloration and some rubs from riding. The outer pads on this saddle are flat and due to this the saddle has been discounted $500 from normal in case the new owner wants to have a saddler replace them. Front blocks under the flaps. This saddle does show wear and is in fair condition but is is VERY reasonably priced for someone who has been wanting a used Butet with no tears and no repairs.