Seat is stamped16″ measures 16.5″, flaps measure 12 3/4″ bar to bottom and 12″ across (size #0 short flaps) the front gullet measures 4 1/4″- medium tree.
2014 model. This saddle has the deeper L seat. The leather on this is incredibly soft and supple and made of the finest calfskin premium leather. You can just about roll the flaps. Saddle has been well kept and there are no tears, no loose stitching and no cracking. There are some water spots on the seat (see picture). There are front blocks under the flaps for some extra support. If you are looking for a lightweight, simple saddle with not a lot of bulk you may want to try this. It is VERY rare to find this size 0 flap size for short leg riders. We only saw one a few years ago and we are expecting this rare saddle to be sold quickly!